The Self in Conversation (Vol. VII)

Edited by Russell Meares and Pauline Nolan

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State Library of New South Wales

Half day workshops to be held on Friday, 23 September with the Conference itself taking place on Saturday, 24 and Sunday, 25 September.

Please direct all enquiries about this Conference to Anne Malecki at the ANZAP office.  Tel (02) 8004 9873 or by email:



Semester 2, 2016

"The Poets Voice in the Making of Mind" (2016 Routledge)

by Professor Russell Meares

Time: 7.15 - 8.45 pm (parking at the door)

Dates: August 17 & 31, September 7 & 21, October 5 & 19, November 2, 16 & 30

Venue: Birchtree Centre of Excellence, Level 1, 58 Parramatta Road, Glebe

Info: Anne Malecki Tel (02) 8004 9873 or email:



Professor Peter Fonagy (UK) - Live streaming event


Venue:  Sydney University

7-9.30 pm

This talk will take place in two parts; theory and technique. The theory section will discuss attachment, epistemic trust and mentalizing. In exploring technique we will look at the implication of this approach to therapeutic technique across a number of modalities of intervention for severe psychological disorders.  Pre-reading will be sent to all registrants.


Workshop - Introduction to the Conversational Model of Psychotherapy

Saturday, 3 SEPTEMBER 2016

9.30 am - 12 noon

Cost $15

Birchtree Centre of Excellence, Glebe


The Conversational Model in Practice

29 OCTOBER 2016

9.30 am - 12.30 pm

The Woolcock Institute of Medical Research, 431 Glebe Point Road, Glebe

Presenter:  Professor Russell Meares



- both Distance and Sydney based


For further information on  ANZAP events and training, please contact Anne Malecki by email: or by 'phone (02) 8004 9873




7-9.30 pm, Wednesday, 10 August 2016
Sydney University
(This event will also be offered, with limited spaces, via live streaming)


Professor Fonagy advises that this talk will take part in two parts; theory and technique.  The theory section will discuss attachment, epistemic trust and mentalizing.  In exploring technique we will look at the implication of this approach to the therapeutic technique across a number of modalities of intervention for severe psychological disorders.  Pre-reading will be sent to all registrants.




State Library of New South Wales


23-25 September 2016


Conversation in the Making of Mind:  Art and Science in the Dyad

In 2016 psychotherapy practice is informed by decades of neuroscience research and a century of psychoanalytic theory and practice.

For the 2016 conference ANZAP is pleased to present keynote speakers Jean Knox and Russell Meares; both at the forefront of the application of new findings to the clinical tradition.

Dr Jean Knox is a psychiatrist and Jungian analyst. She is a Training Analyst of the Society of Analytical Psychology, a Senior Member and Training Therapist of the British Association of Psychotherapists and Consultant Editor of the Journal of Analytical Psychology. She has written and taught extensively on the relevance of attachment theory and developmental neuroscience to psychotherapy theory and practice. Her book Archetype, Attachment, Analysis: Jungian Psychology and the Emergent Mind was published in 2003. Her book 'Self-Agency in Psychotherapy: Attachment, Autonomy and Intimacy' was published in December 2010, in the WW Norton Interpersonal Neurobiology series. She is currently involved in a qualitative research project to explore how agency is expressed by both therapist and patient in transcripts of psychotherapy sessions.

Professor Russell Meares is Emeritus Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Sydney. He held the foundation chair of psychiatry at Westmead Hospital, Sydney University, 1981-2003 and was the founding president of the Australia and New Zealand Association of Psychotherapy (ANZAP). Russell Meares trained in medicine at Melbourne University, and in psychiatry at the Royal Bethlem and Maudsley Hospitals (1963-8), where he formed an enduring friendship with the late Robert Hobson, with whom he collaborated to develop the Conversational Model of psychotherapy, devised to treat people who could not be treated by other means and who would now be called “borderline.” His aim has been to develop an understanding of this and related conditions based not only on clinical and experiential observation but also on developmental and neurophysiological data. To this end, his research publications have been in three main streams: psychodynamic; developmental; and neurophysiological, psychosomatic. He has about 250 publications including contributions to Nature, The Lancet, Archives of General Psychiatry and American Journal of Psychiatry.



Our next training intake will take place in March 2017

We will conduct a Workshop to introduce the Conversational Model on Saturday, 3 September 2016 from 9.30 am to 12 noon in Glebe where we will introduce the main elements of the Model.  This workshop is highly recommended if you are considering applying for ANZAP's next training intake.  This presents an ideal opportunity to learn about the Model and to speak with Faculty members first-hand.

The Conversational Model has become one of the best validated models of psychotherapy and has a strong evidence base for the treatment of conditions such as depression, self-harm, BPD and complex trauma.

Our comprehensive training program is offered as a three year part-time course and offers an opportunity for those not domiciled in Sydney to be trained in the Conversational Model.

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Australia and New Zealand Association of Psychotherapy

ANZAP was formed in 1987 to improve opportunities for the exchange of ideas, to establish a regular training program in contemporary psychoanalytic psychotherapy, and from time to time a supervisor training program for those who have received training.

ANZAP arose out of the psychotherapy program developed and run since 1983 by the Psychotherapy Unit, University of Sydney at Westmead Hospital, where the ideas of Russell Meares and the late Robert Hobson which began to develop in 1965 in the United Kingdom, linked here in Sydney with those of Kohut’s Self Psychology, the humanistic tones of which resonated with their ideas. Based on their many years of combined clinical experience, and the clinical experience developed within this unit, it took a new direction and came to be known as the Conversational Model.

The Conversational Model
Self is conceived as a particular form of mental activity, or process, the dynamic and moving form of which is manifest in the stream of consciousness (William James) and in certain kinds of conversation. The theoretical framework of the Conversational Model depends mainly on the development of self in relationship, and the integration of unconscious traumatic memory. It has integrated psychoanalytic understanding with research in the fields of trauma and developmental theory, linguistics, memory and neurophysiology, in a way that is applicable in day-to-day psychotherapeutic practice, and can be taught through the supervision of audio-taped sessions with patients and clients, complemented with didactic seminars and reading material. It has been and continues to be scientifically tested and has been recognized internationally as a significant development in the treatment of those with severe emotional disorders. It continues to evolve while maintaining its core features.

Seminars & Publications
ANZAP publishes a Bulletin three times a year and presents a bi-monthly seminar on contemporary issues in psychotherapy with a mix of clinical and theoretical content. It has published 7 editions of The Self in Conversation, a yearly journal of articles related to the Conversational Model. Although this is no longer being published it is possible to purchase past editions (see below).

The Annual Conference
With invited and submitted papers, interesting key-note speakers and workshops is the highlight of the year and attracts quite considerable interest in the psychotherapy community.

Several Training programs have been successfully conducted over the years in Christchurch, Sydney, Melbourne, Townsville, Canberra, Newcastle, Brisbane and Hobart.

ANZAP will commence another Distance Training Course in the Conversational Model in March 2016